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Auteur:  Orita [ 27 aug 2008, 04:20 ]
Berichttitel:  Czech M53 helmet

- This topic is about a Czech M53 military helmet I have in my collection. It seems to look like the Russian M1939 or M1940 helmet. On the outside of the helmet there are visible 3 rivet heads, each having the diameter of 4mm. One rivet head is at the back of the helmet and one at each side. ---> Markings: Inside on the liner at the back is stamped "59". Inside at the front the helmet is stamped with black color: "TK.2" with "two crossed swords" [a common Czech mark] by the numbers "54" and "2". ---> I used a dummy head to take pictures to my Czech M53 helmet. Photo 1: LEFT => Front view. RIGHT => Side view. Photo 2: LEFT => View from the back and the right side. RIGHT => Image of the inside liner which is in very good condition. Orita 08/26/08

Auteur:  virjinz [ 27 aug 2008, 17:40 ]
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Auteur:  Kilian [ 28 aug 2008, 00:13 ]
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I would be interested to see the cross swords markings. The TK mark is for Technical Control i.e. a quality control acceptance mark.

HereĀ“s the markings on a Chech VZ58 bayonet scabbard:

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Auteur:  Orita [ 28 aug 2008, 04:28 ]
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- @ Kilian: Since that particular Czech mark is stamped in black ink and it isn't too clear, I didn't take close pictures to it. Anyway the two crossed swords look like in the stamp from your photo. An identical stamp showing two crossed swords is clearly marked on a few Czech 32-rds box magazines I have for the CZ-24 and CZ-26 7.62mm submachine-guns [I only have the box magazines, not the weapons which fire the 7.62X25 Tokarev cartridge]. Orita 08/27/08

Auteur:  Kilian [ 28 aug 2008, 07:42 ]
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That crossed swords mark is the post-1950 acceptance/ownership mark of the Czechoslovakian army, comparable to the well know British broad arrow.

Auteur:  Orita [ 29 aug 2008, 05:14 ]
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- @ Kilian: Yes, the pair of crossed swords is the Czech military proof mark or military acceptance mark. The number "54" stamped beside is actually the two digit date [of the year 1954] when my Czech M53 helmet was accepted for military use. ---> NOTE: The mark showing two crossed swords isn't something new, it was also used in different shape and arrangement by the German porcelain factory of Meissen which had been founded in 1710. In this case the two crossed swords mark was a symbol of high quality. Orita 08/29/08

Auteur:  Orita [ 29 aug 2008, 19:33 ]
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- Many times during the past I asked myself this question: how much protection a military helmet can offer??? ---> About 12 years ago I made an interesting test using 2 identical American helmets with no liner inside, the helmet model from the Korean War [1950-53]. From the distance of 25 meters, I fired at each helmet using a different type of pistol. => I fired at the first helmet 8 cartridges 9mm Parabellum [9X19] using a 9mm Walther P38 German pistol made in 1943. All the 8 bullets hit the helmet but none of them perforated it. The helmet was dented very badly and some small cracks were visible at the point of impact where a few 9mm bullets had hit the helmet. The 9mm bullet fired from the German Walther P38 pistol has a muzzle velocity (Vo) of 350 m/sec. => I fired at the second helmet 8 cartridges 7.62mm Tokarev [7.62X25] using a Russian TT-33 pistol made in 1947. All the 7.62mm bullets hit the helmet and all perforated it twice [entry and exit]. The 7.62mm bullet fired from the Russian TT-33 pistol has a muzzle velocity (Vo) of 415 m/sec. Note: The "TT-33" stands for "Tula-Tokarev 1933". Orita 08/29/08

Auteur:  virjinz [ 30 aug 2008, 08:14 ]
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the 9mm parabellum is a rather blunt bullet which has difficulties in perforating helmets or kevlar vests.
one of the tests shown during an FN 5.7 system is a few shots with the P90 at 100m on 48 layers of kevlar followed by a 9mm at only 5 meters. The 5.7 bullets all go through but the 9mm is stopped immediately.

Auteur:  Orita [ 30 aug 2008, 16:57 ]
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- @ virjinz: Unfortunately I'm not familar with the military helmets of today. I made that test because I wanted to know how much protection a helmet [from WW2 or the Korean War] could offer against a hand weapon from that period of time. Orita 08/30/08

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