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eindelijk ben ik dus begonnen aan de Engelstalige versie van bajonet.be . Ik zal hier de reeds vertaalde teksten posten. Mijn kennis van het Engels is behoorlijk goed maar dat neemt niet weg dat er zeker fouten in zullen zitten. Elke suggestie is welkom!


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Armee Belge / Belgisch Leger 1914
A very complete overview of the edged weapons used by the Belgian army from 1830 to 1914. Other sections of this website contain plenty of information on firearms and uniforms of the Belgian military forces during that period.

ENGELSTALIG

BCN - The Bayonet Collectors Network
Extensive site specialised in information about the k98K bayonet. Their analysis of the maker’s marks and manufactured quantities is impressive.

Arms2Armor and the bayonet photo gallery
These sites offer an overview on the different bayonets per country. This allows the visitor to see “the bigger picture” of the evolution of bayonets used by the different nations.

Bayo-Hunter
Richard Abbenbroek kindly helps visitors of his site with the identification of their bayonets. His own collection is displayed here as well.

Bayonet Points
At the bottom of this page there are some interesting “Bayonet Points”, articles that shed some light on a few, mostly American, bayonets.

Collectible Firearms
Althought the name of this website only refers to their firearm’s section quite a few edged weapons figure here as well. The goal of this site is selling items and the prices at which the blades are offered, can give you an idea of the value (prices are not the cheapest though).

Old Smithy
There are hundreds, or even thousands, of types of bayonets and Old Smithy tries to offer plenty of information on all these different models in a nicely structured way.

Bayonetsonline
Website with detailed descriptions of over 1000 different types of bayonets. A 6-month membership costs $6.

Ebayonet
This site, property of Dennis “Otto” Ottobre, offers hundres of bayonets for sale. Otto has published a very interesting CD-ROM on Turkish blades as well. This can be bought straight from him.

US Bayonet ID
Here you can have any US bayonet between 1892 and now identified.

The Japanese bayonet page
The name of this site speaks for itself. A big number of Japanese bayonets figure on this website.

British military bayonets
Page per page the evolution of the British bayonets is explained. This website starts with the P1888.

Swiss Rifles & Bayonets
Interesting website about the Swiss military arms, both firearms and bayonets, which are widely appreciated for their quality.

The Maddox Collection
Personal website of Jim Maddox, a famous collector of bayonets who has published an impressive book as well. An interview of bajonet.be with Jim can be read here.

FRENCH

Association Française des Collectionneurs de Baïonnettes
This site contains a forum on bayonets as well as detailed information on the history and features of quite a few, mostly French, bayonets.

GERMAN

Bajonett.at
Austria has it’s serious collectors as well and a few of them have developed this very interesting website. A useful feature is the possibility to sort the database per country, period or type of bayonet.

Bajonettsammler
Some people have impressive collections and this website is were one of these collectors share their collection and knowledge. Very useful are the overviews on maker’s marks, regiment marks and a vocabulary.

Deutsche Bajonette
Although this website isn’t presented in the most appealing way, the contents are really worth a look. It offers a detailed overview of German bayonets from mid 19th century until the end of the First World War.

Die Bajonett Seite
Axel Schillings collections, which consists of over 100 blades, is displayed nicely on his website. The item’s production periods range from the 19th century until shortly after the Second World War.

Militaria Fundforum
This forum contains threads about all aspects of military collecting. The “Blankwaffen” forum is filled with hundreds of interesting topics about bayonets and other blades of various periods.

Sigges Bajonette
On top of technical details of bayonets from all over the world, Sigge’s site offers a chronological overview of bayonets per country.


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To avoid a loss of time I will only answer identification requests that are sufficiently detailed. Incomplete descriptions or the absence of pictures make it impossible to give a correct answer.

I can be contacted on kristofverjans@bajonet.be en will always answer. For a correct identification I need to know the length of the blade, the stamps (anywhere the are visible) and the materials that were used (metal, wood, brass, …). Please include one or more pictures (JPG formatting). Please do not exceed 1Mb for all the pictures together.

My answer will be based on data in books about bayonets, websites or my personal knowledge. As this is a free of charge service I'm offering I cannot offer any guarantee or responsibility for this identification.

If you are interested in selling bayonets you can use this link.


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When you would like to offer one or more bayonets for sale the same rules as for an identification request apply.

I can be contacted on kristofverjans@bajonet.be and will always answer. For a correct identification I need to know the length of the blade, the stamps (anywhere the are visible) and the materials that were used (metal, wood, brass, …). Please include one or more pictures (JPG formatting). Please do not exceed 1Mb for all the pictures together.

Whether you have 1 or 100 bayonets on offer does not make a difference. When your offer is interesting I’m always open to negotiate. It speaks for itself that I don’t accept stolen goods.

The bayonet forum features some items that are currently offered by myself or by forum members


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You can always mail me on kristofverjans@bajonet.be and I will reply as soon as possible.
Please use the dedicated pages when you would like to have a bayonet identified or offer a bayonet for sale.


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Welcome to www.bajonet.be

The goal of this website is to supply information to everybody who is interested in bayonets. In order to please both newbies as experienced collectors the contents of this site will consist of general information as well as detailed technical data.

It is impossible to be a 100% complete and error-free source of information on bayonets. If you would notice that some parts should be altered or miss important information I would really like to hear about that.

About 15 years ago I started collecting military items related to the First World War. For a while bayonets were only a small part of my collection but that has changed drastically in the last few years.
I’m very proud to work for F.N. Herstal and was very happy with the article about me and my collection that was published in the company’s staff magazine.

When the contents of this site have been helpful to you I would really appreciate it if you would put a small contribution in the guestbook.

I wish you much fun while surfing and collecting !
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Bericht Re: IDENTIFY
virjinz schreef:
To avoid a loss of time I will only answer identification request that are sufficiently detailed. Incomplete descriptions or the absence of pictures make it impossible to give a correct answer.

I can be contacted on kristofverjans@bajonet.be en will always answer. For a correct identification I need to know the length of the blade, the stamps (anywhere the are visible) and the materials that were used (metal, wood, brass, …). Please include one or more pictures (JPG formatting). Please do not exceed 1Mb for all the pictures together.

My answer will be based on data in books about bayonets, websites or my personal knowledge. As this is a service I’m offering free of charge I cannot offer any guarantee or responsibility for this identification.

If you are interested in selling bayonets you can use this link.


Ik persoonlijk zou deze twee dingen aanpassen:
1. I will only answer identification requests... (ipv request).
2. As this is a free of charge service I'm offering I cannot...(ipv As this is a service I'm offering free of charge I cannot...

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virjinz schreef:
When you would like to offer one or more bayonets for sale the same rules as for an identification request apply.

I can be contacted on kristofverjans@bajonet.be en will always answer. For a correct identification I need to know the length of the blade, the stamps (anywhere the are visible) and the materials that were used (metal, wood, brass, …). Please include one or more pictures (JPG formatting). Please do not exceed 1Mb for all the pictures together.

Whether you have 1 or 100 bayonets on offer does not make a difference. When your offer is interesting I’m always open to negotiate. It speaks for itself that I don’t accept stolen goods.

The bayonet forum features some items that are currently offered myself or the forum members.



1. I can be contacted on kristofverjans@bajonet.be and...(ipv en...)
2. The bayonet forum features some items that are currently offered by myself or by forum members (ipv currently offered myself or the forum members).

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1. Introduction
1.1 Why “bayonet”?

The origins of the word “bayonet” are not completely known but many experts agree that it would be related to the southern French city of Bayonne. At the beginning of the 17th century many gunsmiths had settled there and these would have been the first to search for a way to put a knife on a gun or rifle.

There might be doubts about the origins of the word but about the actual evolution of the weapon itself experts are much more sure. The first use of what would later become known as a bayonet was during the hunt. Especially in the North of Spain people used to hunt bears, a dangerous occupation.
The animal had to be hit on the right spot in order to kill it. If that was not successful, the wounded bear would become an even more feared opponent.

In those days, hunters were equipped with single shot black powder weapons and they needed quite some time in order to prepare a second shot. It seems logical that hunters were looking for a way to protect themselves even when their guns had shot. That is why they developed the plug bayonet. These bayonets consisted of a blade placed on a cylindrical handle, which fitted in the barrel of their guns.

Shortly after this plug bayonet was used for military purposes as well. Just like the hunters, soldiers did only have single shot guns and they were very vulnerable between shots. Therefore these soldiers were assisted by others who were armed with pikes.
The firearms became much more efficient and important and the plug bayonet made the men with the pikes no longer necessary. Although a gun could no longer be fired once the bayonet was placed in the barrel it still offered the same protection as a pike would.

Many successful, and many more unsuccessful, experiments followed before the socket bayonet was developed. This type of bayonet, which consists of a blade fixed on a socket that could be placed over the barrel, allows normal use of the firearm. Initially there were no locking systems available but this changed when zigzag slots or locking rings were added.

Most countries changed to sword or knife bayonets in the course of the 19th century but during the Second World War the enormous Russian army was equipped with the M91/30 socket bayonet.

Nowadays the knife bayonet is the most widely used type and exists in countless varieties. The big advantage is that it can be used both as a bayonet and as a normal knife or even utility knife.

1.2 Attention, addictive!

Every military- weapon- or knife show should have to warn for the danger of getting addicted to collecting bayonets! Once the virus has bitten you it will be very hard to stop!
Most collectors still remember their first bayonet, sometimes a rusty and common piece but nevertheless a treasure of unknown value for it’s new owner. My first blade was a battlefield found P1907 for the British Lee Enfield No. 1 rifle which I bought for about €20 in a village near the Ypres Salient. Although many years have passed it would still not be worth the money but the joy it has given me, the twinkling in my eyes when I came out of that shop were priceless.

After that rusty P1907 not a single bayonet in my collection has ever be caressed, admired, oiled or cleaned more. And after a while questions arose. Who would have used this bayonet? Would anybody be killed with it? What would be its current value? Which rifle was it meant for and what is its exact model description?
I found the answers to these questions by reading books, asking fellow collectors, surfing the Internet, …

Everybody that wants to collect bayonets must try to obtain as much knowledge about it as possible. There are some very good books like the ones from Christian Méry, Anthony Carter, Jean-Pierre Vial, Jerry Janzen, Roy Williams…
When the answer is not mentioned in one of your books it's better to ask a “stupid” question than to loose money in a stupid way!

1.3. What is a bayonet’s value?

A glimpse on arms fairs or auction sites like Ebay and Egun show us that the value of different bayonets can go from a few Euros to several hundreds or thousands. Everything depends on the type of bayonet, it’s maker, the overall condition, the presence of a scabbard, …

The condition can be determined by examining the condition of the blade (has it been affected by rust? is it bent? Has it ever been sharpened or repointed?…) and the handle (any rust? Are the grips still intact? Does the locking system function normally?)

Scabbards affect the price of a bayonet as well. If a bayonet with its scabbard would cost €100 it would probably only be worth about €50 of €60. On the other hand a scabbard with matching serial number can increase the price to €130 or more.

When you pay good attention to the condition and try to acquire as much reliable information as possible a collection can become a good investment as well. Don’t let the financial side become more important than the joy of collecting though. Collecting bayonets will prove a fun way to meet other people, keep your brain cells in action and broaden your horizons.

1.4. Advice on bayonet collecting

There are so many bayonets offered for sale and the temptation to buy items just because they look good or are cheap is always there. Sometimes an impulsive buy can prove to be the right decision but more often it’s not a valuable addition to your collection.

To establish a collection it can be useful to do some planning. Some collectors only search items related to a certain period or event (like the First World War), a single country, a specific type of bayonets or a combination of these (for example German knife bayonets from 1871 to 1945).
Limiting your collection makes it easier to learn about those pieces and often saves you money as well.

Quality should always prevail over quantity. 30 bayonets in a mediocre condition won’t give the same satisfaction as 10 highly collectable pieces in a good condition.


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@Meut, bedankt voor de suggesties. Ik heb het aangepast


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1.1
- Logical (ipv logic) (alinea 3).
- Others who were armed with pikes (ipv others armed) (alinea 4).
- Initially there was no locking system available. This changed when zig zag slots and locking rings were added (zo loopt de zin iets beter) (alinea 5).

1.2
- show (ipv shows) (alinea 1)
- not be worth the (ipv that) money of (ipv but) the joy it has given me, the twinkling in my eyes when I came out of that shop was (and still is) priceless. (ipv were priceless)
- I found answers to (ipv on) these questions.
- When the answer is not mentioned in one of your books it's better....(zo loopt de zin beter)

1.3
- Collecting bayonets (ipv bayonet collection) will prove a fun way....

1.4 (ipv 1.3) (1.3 staat daarboven ook al)

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virjinz schreef:
When you would like to offer one or more bayonets for sale the same rules as for an identification request apply.

I can be contacted on kristofverjans@bajonet.be en will always answer. For a correct identification I need to know the length of the blade, the stamps (anywhere the are visible) and the materials that were used (metal, wood, brass, …). Please include one or more pictures (JPG formatting). Please do not exceed 1Mb for all the pictures together.

Whether you have 1 or 100 bayonets on offer does not make a difference. When your offer is interesting I’m always open to negotiate. It speaks for itself that I don’t accept stolen goods.

The bayonet forum features some items that are currently offered myself or the forum members.


En even veranderen. Klinkt zo Nederlands :wink:
Maar zo te lezen heb je veels te veel tijd :lol:

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jdeleur schreef:
Maar zo te lezen heb je veels te veel tijd :lol:

enkele daagjes vrij dus ideaal om er eindelijk eens aan te beginnen :-)


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deze ga ik voorlopig laten voor wat hij is. een engelstalige gaat de termen normaal gezien beter kennen dan een nederlandstalige :-)
dus vanaf nu komen de vertalingen van de teksten over bajonetten (met uitzondering van de Duitse, die pagina's gaan binnenkort nog veranderen)

@Meut, nogmaals bedankt voor de correcties (en voor je tekstje in het gastenboek!)


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Modelo Argentino 1879

Although the Argentinian army chose to equip their soldiers with a rifle offered by the American Remington company, they decided to that the bayonet should be a German model. The design of the handle closely ressembles the French Mle. 1866 “Chassepot”. The difference with that French bayonet is the blade. Whereas the Mle. 1866 features a yataghan style blade the Argentinian Modelo 1879 has a straight blade.

This bayonet can be found in both leather as steel scabbards.

When Argentina sold thousands of these bayonets from their old arsenals to surplus wholesalers or other countries, they often ground down the Argentinian crests that figured on the ricasso of their bayonets.

Modelo Argentino 1891

The quality of this bayonet is very high like the other Argentinian bayonets made by the German company Weyersberg, Kirschbaum und Cie. Modelo Argentino 1891 with aluminium handles were intended for use by the regular army while the brass handled models were to be used by the Argentinian navy or police.

This bayonet was equipped with a steel scabbard.

When Argentina sold thousands of these bayonets from their old arsenals to surplus wholesalers or other countries, they often ground down the Argentinian crests that figured on the ricasso of their bayonets.

Modelo Argentino 1909

For the production of this bayonet they chose once again for the workmanship of the German Weyersberg, Kirschbaum und Cie factory. At the change of the century, this Solingen-based company exported to lots of South-American countries and was one of the biggest manufacturers of edged weapons of the world.

The form of the blade of this Modelo 1909 bayonet is nearly identical to that of its predecessor, the Modelo Argentino 1891, but is of a slightly different size. The M1909 is a bit bigger.
For the handle the Argentinian army decided on using wood, a material that was much more common in Argentina than the aluminium or brass which was used for the Modelo Argentino 1891.
The 1909 is a well designed bayonet made of high quality materials.

At the same time, Argentina ordered a sword which was of a design similar to that of the Modelo 1909 bayonet. The sword can not be fixed to a rifle though and its blade gets a little wider towards the tip, comparable to the German S98/05 blades.

Both the bayonet as the sword were equipped with a steel scabbard.

When Argentina sold thousands of these bayonets from their old arsenals to surplus wholesalers or other countries, they often ground down the Argentinian crests that figured on the ricasso of their bayonets.

M1924 FN export

By signing the Armistice on November 11th 1918, Germany agreed with the very strict demands from the Allied Forces. A few of the conditions were intended to control the country’s steel production and therefore having more control over the production of weapons.

Companies in other nations, like the Fabrique National in the Belgian city of Herstal and the Brno-based Czech CSZ Company, have benefited greatly from these measures. The sudden disappearance of the German competition allowed F.N. to obtain contracts with about every country on the South-American continent. This made the Belgian produced M1924 Mauser and its M1924 export bayonet a very successful and broadly used weapon.

Optically the M1924 export and the Czech VZ23 are very much alike due to the resemblance in the form of the blade and handle. The give-away in the identification is the way the blade is fixed to the handle. The VZ23’s blade has the cutting edge placed upwards whereas the Belgian designed M1924 export has its cutting edge downwards.

M1

In 1943, after a successful test with the M1905 E1 (the to 370mm shortened version of the initially 521mm long M1905 bayonet) the United States decided to start producing the M1 bayonet.

The handle is identical to the M1905 and its derivates whereas the blade has the same length of the M1905 E1 but with a different fuller. As the M1905 E1 is a cut-down, the fuller continues to the tip where only about ¾ of the blade of the M1 is fullered

Other than the M1905 (and its derivates) the blued or parkerized blade of the M1 is only stamped with the manufacturers initials, “US” and the so-called “flaming onion” (ordnance mark). The bayonet featured a handle made of black composite and came with a fiberglass scabbard.

FN FAL

This bayonet was intended for use on which was probably the best military rifle ever produced, the FN FAL. Since it’s development in 1951 by F.N.’s master engineer Dieudonné Saive the FAL’s status grew to become known as "the right arm of the free world". It was with the FN FAL that most western countries armed themselves against communism and dictatorships.

The success of the FAL was based on various interesting features; a powerful cartridge (7.62 NATO), a relatively light recoil, high precision and very reliable mechanics. It is estimated the production figures of the FAL rifle, all models and derivates, largely exceed a million pieces. The list of countries that have adopted this rifle (or one of its derivates) is almost endless; Argentina, Australia (L1A1), Austria (Stg. 58), Brasil, Canada (C1A1), Germany (G1), Ireland, India (1A SLR), Israel (Romat), Netherlands, United Kingdom (L1A1), Venezuela, South-Africa, …

The bayonet features 2 extensions on the muzzle ring which are a simple form of suppressors. There are variations with wooden, composite or metal handles. The scabbard is made of composite materials.


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